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... that Bath fire station, a rare example of a design by a female architect from the pre-WWII era, is proposed for demolition?
Does WP:NOTADVOCACY not apply to DYK hooks or is DYK an exception to where you can advocate a position? 206.83.102.95 (talk) 02:57, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- It is the opinion of the twentieth century society which we are claiming in wiki voice. The whole article has POV issues. Secretlondon (talk) 10:34, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- ... that Adam Hall is the first person from Bermuda to play professional baseball in the United States? no he ain't see Sean Albury, who played professional baseball for the Helena Brewers in 2011 & 2013 at the professional level. Therapyisgood (talk) 03:01, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- "Nassau, Bermuda". I think that's a mistake – Nassau is in The Bahamas. Baseball cards of him say he is from The Bahamas. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:36, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Baseball Reference Bullpen says Bradley Roper-Hubbert is from Bermuda and pre-dates Hall, although his baseball-reference minors page says Georgia. Therapyisgood (talk) 03:43, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hubbert himself confirms he was from Bermuda. Therapyisgood (talk) 03:52, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- see also Therapyisgood (talk) 03:55, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- The hook should say "Bermudian" rather than the ambiguous "person from Bermuda", which as Therapyisgood has pointed out, can include people born in the country. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 06:19, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
Pulled: pace AirshipJungleman29, I don't think Bermudian would fix the issue, since it still would not exclude Roper-Hubbert -- someone who was born in Wales but moved to China as a child could reasonably be described as Welsh, Welsh–Chinese, or so on. It seems that we have a fairly clear error, or at least a factual statement that we can't stand by -- the ALT proposed at DYKN was the same, so can't be swapped in. I'm not familiar enough with the form for replacing hooks, so I'm hoping that someone who is will take a look to find an alternative. UndercoverClassicist T·C 09:48, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- The hook should say "Bermudian" rather than the ambiguous "person from Bermuda", which as Therapyisgood has pointed out, can include people born in the country. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 06:19, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- see also Therapyisgood (talk) 03:55, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hubbert himself confirms he was from Bermuda. Therapyisgood (talk) 03:52, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Baseball Reference Bullpen says Bradley Roper-Hubbert is from Bermuda and pre-dates Hall, although his baseball-reference minors page says Georgia. Therapyisgood (talk) 03:43, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- "Nassau, Bermuda". I think that's a mistake – Nassau is in The Bahamas. Baseball cards of him say he is from The Bahamas. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:36, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- ... that Enriqueta Duarte (pictured) swam the English Channel despite having no previous experience with open water swimming?
- This seems misleading to me, because it makes it sound like she hadn't swum in the open water before she actually tried to swim the channel. But it says in the article that she was coached for the purpose, which implies that she practised extensively beforehand; the article doesn't say that she had literally no experience at the point of swimming the channel, which is what the hook rather over-sensationally implies. Dionysodorus (talk) 05:08, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- I supposed that she might have practiced for open water only by doing endurance training in a swimming pool. JMCHutchinson (talk) 07:15, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- It seems rather improbable, and the article provides no particular reason for thinking so... Dionysodorus (talk) 08:05, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- I have updated the hook to say "never before competed". RoySmith (talk) 10:23, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- It seems rather improbable, and the article provides no particular reason for thinking so... Dionysodorus (talk) 08:05, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- ... that princess Madri (pictured) of the Mahabharata became a widow at the very moment that she was sexually intimate with her husband? How doesn't this violate WP:DYKFICTION? Fram (talk) 10:17, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- The image is rather dubious as well, a painting of an anonymous woman remade into a lithograph called "Madri" by someone in 1910. The caption should at least indicate that this is some vague artist impression and not an actual portrait of the princess obviously. Fram (talk) 10:19, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Not too long ago, "Mythology hooks are not covered by this" was added to DYKFICTION. RoySmith (talk) 10:32, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Well, that's a rather stupid decision. We are now putting something as fact on the main page, when it is a typical mythological curse story. Would we put that Odysseus adventures with the Cyclops or Circe as facts on the main page? Fram (talk) 10:36, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Not too long ago, "Mythology hooks are not covered by this" was added to DYKFICTION. RoySmith (talk) 10:32, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- I've swapped it for Elizabeth Gunning, which seems to tick a lot of the same boxes. WP:DYKFICTION explicitly doesn't apply to mythology, but this isn't that, since we're talking about a specific scriptural work (RoySmith -- as I read that exception, it would allow "in Greek mythology, Heracles went mad", but not "in Seneca's Hercules Furens, Hercules goes mad"). Clearly, whether that work qualifies as "fiction" is a matter of huge controversy, but I note that MOS:FICTION is usually applied to works of religious poetry, and that Mahabharata implicitly invokes it to have an uncited Synopsis section. Happy to be reverted if the view is that DYKFICTION does not apply here. UndercoverClassicist T·C 10:32, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- The image is rather dubious as well, a painting of an anonymous woman remade into a lithograph called "Madri" by someone in 1910. The caption should at least indicate that this is some vague artist impression and not an actual portrait of the princess obviously. Fram (talk) 10:19, 13 August 2025 (UTC)